Questions and Answers for 30


Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 22 21:58:12 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace soon hwang
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: lab-100.clicc.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, would i get the cool bounty point for the previous post? (since partially correct answers are not really correct)? thank y ou


Answer:

A portion of the correct answer was indicted in red, so this wasn't really a chemistry error at all. So for the same reason that I cannot give bounty points for spelling errors I cannot give you the point for this.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 10:04:27 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace soon hwang
Student Email: gracie_hwang@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dr Hardinger, for practice problems in ionic substitution, question 15a (key), you did not indicate which is the strongest nucleophile.


Answer:

A portion of the correct answer was in red. Now all of the answer is in red. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 9:21:58 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace soon hwang
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, in practice problems in acids/bases question 2, shouldn't the CH3CH2 compound have a net positive charge (instead of the stated negative)? please correct me if i'm wrong, but don't carbocations (which lack bonds, have open octects) have a positive charge? thanks


Answer:

You are incorrect. The ethyl group bears a negative charge because a proton (H+) was removed by a base.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 8:07:40 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: sf
Student Email: s_boberi@hotmail.com
Submitted from: ts40-10.wla.ts.ucla.edu

dr. hardinger--can you go over what all the different "n"s mean in chapter 12 of oxytoby. for example, the Nernst equation's "n" means something different than the n3 in half cell rxns on page 417 of oxtoby. and that n differs from the n used in G=-nfdeltaE.


Answer:

"n" always means the number of moles of something. In the energy equation, n is the number of moles of electrons passed while the reaction proceeds (if two moles of electrons pass, regardless of the balanced equation, n = 2). In the Nerst equation, n refers to the number of moles of electrons transferred between half-reactions in the balanced equation. Read in Oxtoby about the derivation of the Nerst equation and you will discover hoe they are related.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 8:06:24 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof Hardinger, On CFQ for Ionic Substitution (SN2) you forgot to give the definition for "aprotic solvent" for number 11.


Answer:

You are correct. The error has been fixed and one error bounty point recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 5:02:03 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-189.resnet.ucla.edu

dear mr hardinger, could you please explain why e2 cannot happen with a primary alkyl halide?


Answer:

E2 certainly can happen at a primary alkyl halide.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 1:15:50 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, it states in brown and foote that a meso compound is: an achiral compound possessing 2 or more stereocenters you stated in fall 98, midterm I, question 9, "that a meso compound is a molecule bearing at least one stereocenter, but is achiral." grazia also stated that a meso compound must contain 2 or more stereocenters. which is the correct statement? thank you


Answer:

These are exactly the same. A meso compound is by definition achiral, and it is not possible to be achiral and have a single stereocenter. Thus both definitions are correct, because they say the same thing.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 1:03:58 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

to the previous question, what i was trying to get at was...the key says "The molecule has a single stereocenter. Therefore it cannot have a stereoisomer which is not an enantiomer." (it sounds different from when you add a comma "The molecule has a single stereocenter. Therefore it cannot have a stereoisomer, which is not an enantiomer.) which is the correct..interpretation? is it incorrect to say that the figure has a diastereoisomer?


Answer:

If a molecule has but one stereocenter it cannot have diastereomers.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 1:01:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dr Hardinger, in practice problems in stereochemistry, can't the 2nd figure (one w/ bromide) have a diastereoisomer? (requirement of diastereoisomer: 1 stereocenter). is this correct? gracious.


Answer:

Which second figure? Could you be more specific, please?



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 0:30:38 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Dr. Hardinger, could you please explain why in fall 1999 midterm 1, question 8, "Bond polarity is a result of even distribution of the electron density within a covalent bond." thank you


Answer:

That should say "uneven" not "even." The error has been fixed.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 0:09:43 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Dr Hardinger, when you ask "Define all constants and variables in this equation", (winter 2000 chem 140, question 8) are you asking us to tell the definition or identify what they are? thank you


Answer:

In such a case you should be as specific as possible. For example, give all units for a constant such as the gas constant.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 21 0:01:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: lab-069.clicc.ucla.edu

(Organic Chem. Prac. Prob.: Analyzing Reaction Mech., #1d) Dr. Hardinger, I was thinking that the main reason why an E2 reaction would not occur for this particular situation is the fact that there are no beta-carbons present to form a pi bond nor a rearrangement. Also (concerning the answer given), I thought that iodide was an ok base. Can you please help me out? Thanks.


Answer:

Elimination would be possible in this case, because there is a hydrogen that is beta to the leaving group: I-C-O-H. The molecule would lose iodide and a hydrogen from the OH if it did elimination. Iodide is a very poor base because it is so soft.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 23:52:19 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: salew
Student Email: oakande@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts47-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Dr Hardinger, for the transition metals complex in calculating the e- count are you going to provide us with the # of valence e-s of the transition metal? Thanks.


Answer:

No, but I will provide you with a periodic table.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 23:28:25 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wendewessen amde
Student Email: justcroozn@hotmail.com
Submitted from: 1Cust22.tnt3.lax3.da.uu.net

mistakes on the study guide 1.ch.8 problem 27e, the product should be CH3(CH2)5CCH,NOT CH3(CH2)4CCH 2.ch.10 problem 15b,c the PKa of ammonia is 38,not 33. 3.ch.15 problem 9, the PKa of ammonia is 38,not 33.


Answer:

You are correct on all counts. The errors have been posted on the errors web page, and you've already acheived your 5 point maximum for error bounty points.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 21:37:20 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof Hardinger, (Both regarding Chem 30 finals), I think on the solutions for the final for Fall 98 number 9 the answer should be tertiary will resonance, right not secondary with resonance? Also I think on the Spring 99 Final you forgot to add the methyl group for the transition state for problem 19.


Answer:

About the fall 98 final: The most stable carbocation is indeed secondary with resonance not tertiary with resonance. "Secondary" means the carbon is attached to two other carbons; hydrogens or nitrogen do not count. About the spring 99 final: You are correct. The error has been repaired and one error bounty point recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 19:28:45 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: gracie_hwang@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, should we be familiar with Markovnikov's rule? thanks


Answer:

No. That topic used to be covered in Chem 30, but no longer. Use the Concept Focus Questions and old exam question links at the bottom of each set of practice problems as a guide to relevant topics.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 17:15:50 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, I asked two questions previously about some mistakes. The mistakes were for Chem 30. They were the following Fall 98 number #9 and Spring 99 #19. Thanks


Answer:

Could you please put all the information (question and location) into one new submission? Thanks.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 16:38:46 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wisam
Student Email: wbarkho@ucla.edu
Submitted from: 128.97.153.75

is there a place on the web page wheer we can view handouts that we missed? i saw some of the handouts through the syllabus, but not all of them were there. can you make the handouts "determining electron count on a metal in a coordination complex" and "important organic solvents" available? thanks


Answer:

I make a point of not posting handouts for two reasons (1) to encourage you to attend lecture, and (2) some handouts contain matyerial copied from a textbook, and therefore copyrighted. Theis material cannot be posted to the web without special permission from the text author. If you missed a handout, come to my office and pick it up.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 13:54:51 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Wen-huang Ko
Student Email: wenko@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-12.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Dr.hardinger, on the past exam(Fall 1998, chem 30 mid.I)question #13, the solution graph showing the quilibrium chiar conformation is not correct. On the right habd side of the equilibrium, the carbon that bearing a big group is not the same carbon as the left hand side. It should change to the carbon that is on the right side position and pointing downward. thank you. (by the way, my previous question on electrochemistry is for chem30 winter00)


Answer:

These carbons are identical, only the view has changed. Try examining this point with a model.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 13:35:01 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Wen-huang Ko
Student Email: wenko@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-12.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, on the concept focus question of the electrochmistry, the solution graph on the 1st problem indicated that there is an electron flow across the salt bridge, i think this is a mistake because the electron should only flow across the external circuit. Thanks.


Answer:

There is a net flow of charge through the salt bridge, but the charge is carried by ions not by free electrons.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 13:35:01 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Wen-huang Ko
Student Email: wenko@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-12.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, on the concept focus question of the electrochmistry, the solution graph on the 1st problem indicated that there is an electron flow across the salt bridge, i think this is a mistake because the electron should only flow across the external circuit. Thanks.


Answer:

There is a net flow of charge through the salt bridge, but the charge is carried by ions not by free electrons.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 11:53:58 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Yoram
Student Email: yoramk@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts46-24.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Prof Hardinger, On the page http://web.chem.ucla.edu/ ~harding/pp_elimination_key.html you say that fo neomenthyl chloride can have that certain arrangement; What I don't understand is if the Nuc/ in this case the base (CH3)3CO- is pretty big, so if Hoffman's rule doesn't take place here where would it go into effect? If Hoffman's orientation comes into play then will the final molecule become like that of methyl chloride? Or would both be acceptable with the proper explanation? Sincerely, -Yoram


Answer:

Hofmann eleimination would occur. The question was written at a time when Chem 30 didn't go into as much detail on elimination reactions, so Zaitsev vs Hofmann wasn't considered. I'll update the problem to avoid this confusion.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 9:31:44 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: J.W.
Student Email: jawong@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s96-212.resnet.ucla.edu

Professor Hardinger, you mentioned something about intramolecular being faster than intermolecular during lecture. Could you go over that again? Thanks.


Answer:

Everything lese being equal, a mechanism step that occurs with in a single molecule (intramolecular) is faster than a mechanism step between two separate molecules (intermolecular).



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 7:57:48 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, Also I think on the Spring 99 Final you forgot to add the methyl group for the transition state for problem 19.


Answer:

Spring 1999 final of what course?



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 7:27:23 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof Hardinger, I think on the solutions for the final for Fall 98 number 9 should be tertiary will resonance, right?


Answer:

Fall 1998 number 9 of what course?



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 20 5:39:55 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33
Submitted from: s71-189.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr Hardinger, I'm kinda confused about the "Fundamentals of Elimination Reactions" problem number 2. How come (in the soltn) the tertiary Hydrogen atom connected to C(CH3)2 is not an option for "lose a proton to form a pi bond? " thanks


Answer:

I'm not sure I understand your question. The reaction in question is clearly E2 (good base, reasonable leaving group, beta hydrogen), so carbocation fates are irrelevant.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 23:13:30 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Sagir Bera
Student Email: sbera@ucla.edu
Submitted from: spider-tl052.proxy.aol.com

Why would a "chain initiation" step take place to form radicals? Wouldn't the original molecule be stable as it is? So what would be the point of even getting a radical?


Answer:

A good question! Recall that atoms have kinetic energy and are thus vibrating along the bond axis, like two balls on a spring. If the kinetic energy of the atoms is large enough, they will rip the bond apart. Weaker bonds, such as Br-Br are more easily broken apart.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 22:00:53 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: gracie_hwang@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Dr. Hardinger, In E2/E1 mechanisms, how do you determine which product is the major product? Would you consider the 3 factors of alkene stability? (such as E vs. Z, Terminal vs. internal pi bonds, degree of substitution). Thanks.


Answer:

E1: most stable alkene is major always. E2: Most stable alkene is major unless something in the transition state (the antiperiplanar requirement) prevents formation of that product.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 21:58:52 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: gracie_hwang@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Dr. Hardinger, On question 1d of practice problem on the "analyzing reaction mechanism", "OH" is not a good LG but "I" is a good nucleophile. Isn't it possible to consider this as a SN2 reaction because the nucleophile and LG can be interdependent? Therefore, could this reaction not be SN2? thanks


Answer:

HO is NEVER a good enough leaving group for SN2 or SN1, regardless of the rest of the factors.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 20:56:26 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: gracie_hwang@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Dr. Hardinger, in sn2's transition state, there is a bar-double-slash present. but for sn1's carbocation intermediate, would it be wrong to be the bar-double-slash? i think i read somewhere that it is incorrect to have this present. also, would it be incorrect to say that sn1 has a transition state, instead of a carbocation intermediate or are they the same thing? thank you oh so very much


Answer:

The "double bar slash" next to the brackets indicates the structure that is contained within the brackets is a transition state. A transition state has no lifetime (less than a picosecond), whereas a carbocation can last for seconds or longer. In addition, while a carbocation may be a high-energy species, it is not "the single highest point on the energy profile between reactant and product for any given mechanism step" (the definition of a transition state).



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 3:51:20 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Christopher Young
Student Email: cmyoung@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s68-76.resnet.ucla.edu

How does antiplanar and coplanar hydrogens and halogens relate to the rate of elimination reactions?


Answer:

The C-H and C-leaving group bonds must be coplanar so that the transition state can be stabilized by the incipient pi bond.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 19 3:49:33 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Christopher Young
Student Email: cmyoung@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s68-76.resnet.ucla.edu

Are we responsible for nomenclature of alkanes,alkenes and transition metal complexes, etc.? Also, why is the carbocation formation more energetically expensive in Sn1 reaction vs. Sn2?


Answer:

No, and formation or a carbcoation in SN1 has a large positive enthalpy (loss of the carbon-leaving group bond and no other bond gained) but in the SN2 transition state, one bond is lost while another is gained (a much smaller and pehaps even negative enthalpy).



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Mar 18 22:26:00 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: marika dubin
Student Email: mrdubin@earthlink.net
Submitted from: dialup-63.209.95.3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net

Dear Dr. Hardinger: When deciding whether the mechanism for transition metal ligand exchange is associative or dissociative, do you always consider complexes with 18 or more electrons to undergo dissociative and complexes with less than 18 electrons to undergo associative? Or does the fact that, say, an 18 electron complex is exchanging a stronger field ligand for a weaker field ligand come into play such that it would undergo associative so it doesn't have to give up its stronger field ligand first? In other words, if a complex which consists of a metal (which lies towards the right of the transition metals ) which has 18 electrons and is coordinated by a number of strong field ligands going to give up a ligand first before taking an weaker field ligand? Thanks. Marika


Answer:

If the complex has less than 18 electrons to begin with, the substitution mechanism will most probably be associative. If the complex has more than 18 electrons to begin with, then the substitution mechanism is most probably dissociative. If the complex has 18 electrons, it can go either way. Substitution on early transition metals, or using weak field ligands favors the dissociate mechanism. Substitution on a late transition metal or by a strong field ligand favors the associative mechanism.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Mar 18 14:22:20 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: paul
Student Email: arguello@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s93-152.resnet.ucla.edu

concerning the same problem, TM #5 part b. Since CO is a stronger ligand and it absorbs in the higher energy end of the spectrum (blue) it would relfect its complementary color, wouldn't it? vulcan blood is green, because it absorbs in the red, right? so if it aborbs in the blue, woudn't spock turn orange with CO poisoning?


Answer:

As stated below concering this question, it depends upon your starting assumptions. Example: how large is the change in crystal field splitting energy when the ligands change?



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Mar 18 14:07:41 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: paul arguello
Student Email: arguello@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s93-152.resnet.ucla.edu

transition metal complexes and ligand exchange practice problems #5. if we're comparing Fe hemoglobin to Cu hemoglobin, wouldn't Fe hemo contain 18e- only when oxygenated? so in calculating Cu oxidation you'd need to subtract 2 more e- for O2, right? so the answer would be Copper (V)?


Answer:

You could approach the problem that way. The given answer assumes the unoxygenated complex has 18 electrons. This is a very open question. If it was an exam question, it would be graded more on your use of logic and chemical common sense than on your specific answer.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 15 11:41:07 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Brandi Sankey
Student Email: bsankey@ucla.edu
Submitted from: lab-067.clicc.ucla.edu

Is there still space available for the extra points on thursday at around noon? If so, I would like to sign up. Please let me know.


Answer:

The "activity" has been filled since Friday March 10. Sorry about that.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 20:29:52 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s96-11.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, On the solutions to the Fundamentals of Elimination Reaction s I think you forgot to put the CH3 groups in for both molecules on number 1.


Answer:

I don't see any missing methyl groups. Recall that in bond-line structures, a stick is a methyl group. If I'm not understanding your question, please rephrase it or come by my office so we can discuss it in person.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 14:37:18 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-189.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr Hardinger, In the transition metal complexes and mechanisms concept focus questions, the answer for problem 7 does not include the reason for why the electron count is important.


Answer:

You are correct. That omission has been repaired and one error bounty point recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 14:37:18 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-189.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr Hardinger, In the transition metal complexes and mechanisms concept focus questions, the answer for problem 7 does not include the reason for why the electron count is important.


Answer:

You are correct. That omission has been repaired and one error bounty point recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 11:04:34 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Pearl Kim
Student Email: pearlkim@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-13.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Professor, in the book OGN they were discussing the transition metal complex and hemoglobin, and it says that after the oxygen is delivered that it is replaced by the weaker field ligand of water, why is that? does it have no choice but to be occupied by water to fufill the complex even though its a weaker field ligand?


Answer:

Adding water forms an 18 electron complex. An 18 electron complex with a weak ligand is better than a 16 electron complex with one less ligand.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 11:04:34 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Pearl Kim
Student Email: pearlkim@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-13.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Professor, in the book OGN they were discussing the transition metal complex and hemoglobin, and it says that after the oxygen is delivered that it is replaced by the weaker field ligand of water, why is that? does it have no choice but to be occupied by water to fufill the complex even though its a weaker field ligand?


Answer:

Adding water forms an 18 electron complex. An 18 electron complex with a weak ligand is better than a 16 electron complex with one less ligand.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 11:04:34 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Pearl Kim
Student Email: pearlkim@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-13.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Professor, in the book OGN they were discussing the transition metal complex and hemoglobin, and it says that after the oxygen is delivered that it is replaced by the weaker field ligand of water, why is that? does it have no choice but to be occupied by water to fufill the complex even though its a weaker field ligand?


Answer:

Adding water forms an 18 electron complex. An 18 electron complex with a weak ligand is better than a 16 electron complex with one less ligand.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 13 9:52:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Web-huang Ko
Student Email: wenko@ucla.edu
Submitted from: SLC-PC-58.nslc.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, on the lecture note set#9 page 3, there is an error on the final product of the first "the other E2 reaction" example. there should be impossible for the triple bonds to exist between two CH3. Wen


Answer:

I don't have a copy of these notes to compare. Could you bring it by my office? Thanks....



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 12 15:17:37 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s95-120.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, Regarding the CFQ solutions on Transition Metal Complexes and Mechanisms on number 11 I think you forgot to answer the second part of the question. (Even though the answer is pretty obvious from the answer to the first question).


Answer:

You are correct. Had that answer been omitted on an exam, you would no have received full credit so why should I? :) The correction has been posted and one error bonus point recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Mar 9 22:10:28 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: siyuan
Student Email: sueliu@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts2-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu

On the Practice problems for "transition metal complexes and ligand exchange" #2b: shouldn't it be + 2 electrons when doing the count because the complex has a 2- charge?


Answer:

No, because we are working backwards.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 8 12:34:29 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s95-120.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, Yeah sorry I meant Fall 98, Midterm IIb number 5d not 5b.


Answer:

You are correct. That error has be fixed, and one error bounty point credited to you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 8 6:27:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, I think the answer to number 5 b on the Fall 98 midterm IIb is wrong. Shouldn't there be a methyl group on the hexane ring? thanks


Answer:

I don't see an error here. Perhaps you should check the course, year, exam and problem number to make sure you're telling me the right place to look.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 8 3:53:09 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0018-max1.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Acids and Bases: Molecular Structure and Acidity Tutorial, Correction) Dr. Hardinger, I just wanted to let you know about an error in the paragraph following the solution 2 diagram. It states, "Recalling that weaker bases have stronger conjugate bases...." It should be "stronger conjugate acids." I'm sure everybody knows that, but I just wanted to point it out to you.


Answer:

That error has already been reported and repaired. To make sure that the most recent version of a web page appears, use the "refresh" or "reload" button on your browser. Thanks for pointing it out though.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 8 3:25:48 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0018-max1.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Stereochemistry Practice Prob., Question #3a) I was having a little trouble when trying to figure out whether the stereocenter farthest to the left of the diagram (the one attatched to the aromatic) was an R or S. 1) I determined that the H was least priority, so I imagined holding it in my hand (thereby looking down upon the structure from the top). 2) Seeing how the rest of the substituents were carbons I went past to see what the carbons were attatched to. 3) Starting from the aromatic and going clockwise, I saw that there were 3 carbons attatched to the first carbon under consideration (double bond counts as two atoms), 1 carbon, 1 nitrogen, and 1 hydrogen for the second, and two hydrogens and a carbon for the last. 4) Using those atomic weights and my bird's eye view, I determined that the stereocenter under question was R, but according to the key it's S. Can you please tell me what I'm doing wrong. Every other example I did turned out fine except for this one. Thanks.


Answer:

The priorities are: C-N > C of pyridine ring > CH2 > H. Make sure you've assigned the priorities correctly, and that you've built the model correctly. The posted solution to this problem appears to be accurate.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 8 0:36:36 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: katie schon
Student Email: kschon@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s83-22.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi, i know this will probably not get answered before the exam, but for the future. When assigning priority w/ R and S, if it something is attached to more than one carbon, you must branch out to fing out which one is higher priority between the two of them. I had read that in order to do this, one must take the entire molecular weight into consideration at that pt. i.e., if one carbon was attached to 3 oxygens and a hydrogen, it would get a higher priority than say a sulfur and 3 hydrogens. however, today i was told that the carbon with the sulfur would get higher priority even though it has a smaller weight due to the fact that sulfur has higher priority than oxygen. which is correct??? thank you


Answer:

Your question is unclear to me. Please bring it to my office so I can see exactly what you mean.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 18:17:01 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: justcroozn@hotmail
Student Email: wendewessen Amde
Submitted from: host-a4432e2c.library.ucla.edu

mistakes on the study guide (Brown and Foote). 1.ch 6,problem 8: step four has an extra "+" on OH group of alcohol. 2.ch 6,problem 16b: 2C-C bonds should be there instead of 3. 3.ch 6,problem 16d: product should have 2C-C bonds not 3. 4.ch 6,problem 16e: product should have 2C-C bonds not 3.


Answer:

6.8c: Your are correct; this is an error. I do not find errors in the other three. One error bounty point has been recorded for you.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 21:41:45 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: mike
Student Email: mcmillen@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s82-40.resnet.ucla.edu

I'm sorry this is so late, but I have a question about inductive affect. If florine has an electron withdrawling effect upon the electron density on the reactive end of a molecule(such as CF3CH2O-) it makes it less reactive. But, if the molecule is long er (such as CF3CH2CH2CH2O-) does that make the inducive electron withdrawling effect weaker or stronger. Thanks.


Answer:

If the two areas of the molecule under consideration are further apart in space, the inductive effect is weaker.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 14:50:20 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Yoram
Student Email: yoramk@ucla.edu
Submitted from: lab-109.clicc.ucla.edu

On the wed page http://web.chem.ucla.edu/ ~harding/pp_acids_key.html on the answer to 11c and on the question you wrote that the amide ion is a stronger base than the ketone. But in the answer you give the answer that it has more resonance and therefor should be more stable than the ketone. Therefore it should be a WEAKER base due to its added stability. If this isn't an error do you think you could explain why my thinking is wrong? Why would the resonance increase the basicity?


Answer:

The protonated amide bears a positive charge than can be stabilized by a signficant resonance structure. The protonated ketone also bears a positive charge but it cannot be stabilized by a significant resonance form. Because the protonated amide is more stable than the protonated ketone, the protonated amide is easier to form. This means the amide accepts a proton more readily than the ketone, and so the amide is a stronger base than the ketone.



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Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 7:40:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Professor Hardinger, about deciding when somethign is acidic or basic, we are to consider the 4 factors. But isn't polarizability and electronegativity contradicting in some ways? (better polarizibiliyt (going down periodic table) better acid; better EN (going across) better acid)? I am confused. Thank you.


Answer:

There is no contradiction because polarizability is more important than electronegativity.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 5:35:15 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-189.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr. Hardinger, In the "identifying stereocenters" tutorial, exercise h) has Nitrogen as a stereocenter because of the 3 different attachments and the lone pair.I was wondering why in the "stereocenter nomenclature r/s system" tutorial, the Nitrogen in exercise f) also i sn't considered a stereocenter. please explain the reason for this. thanks.


Answer:

A good questions. The ring containing the two nitrogen atoms has several tautomeric forms, so the nitrogen steroechemistry is not fixed. In addition, the ring is planar, so it doesn't really have steroechemistry in that sense.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 3:05:01 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Weeks pp.97, #27) Okay, last one. Does the hydrogen prefer bonding with the oxygen (than to carbon) because of oxygen's greater electronegativity? If not why (I tend to think that it's not because of the charge because the carbon would pick up a negative charge after the hydrogen leaves)? Alright, thanks mucho for your time ^_^.


Answer:

This equilibrium favors ethoxide and acetaldehyde, not ethanol and acetaldehyde enolate.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 3:01:15 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Weeks pp.95, #22) Dr. Hardinger, I was wondering why the molecule forms a 3-sided ring. Isn't that thermodynamically unfavored?


Answer:

Thermodynamically unfavored does not mean impossible, especially in this case where one carbon of the reactant has an open octet and all atoms of the product have full octets.



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Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:57:21 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Weeks pp.92, #13) Dr. Hardinger, I was wondering if there was a preference as to which sigma bond the oxygen gets its electrons from.


Answer:

Bond breaking will occur to give the more stable carbocation.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:55:13 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Weeks pp91, #9) Dr. Hardinger, could you protonate the oxygen and then break the O-C bond instead?


Answer:

Departure of the chloride results in a much mroe stable benzylic carbocation, regardless of what the ether group does.



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Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:52:41 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 8.6 BF, Solvent) Dr. Hardinger, do nonpolar aprotic solvents play any significant roles in substitution reactions (as opposed to polar aprotic and polar protic)? I didn't really notice them being discussed in the book. I figure since it's nonpolar a nd doesn't contain any H- bonding capabilities, it wouldn't be in the same layer as the substitution reactions.


Answer:

A solvent always plays a role in a reaction, otherwise why would we use it in the first place? In very general terms (and there are numerous exceptions) nucleophilicity of a negatively charged nucleophile is improved in a polar, aprotic solvent.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:49:59 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: siyuan
Student Email: sueliu@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts38-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu

are we suppose to memorize the organic solvents?


Answer:

Memorize? No. Understand? Be able to predict whether the solvent is polor or nonpolar or protic or aprotic from the structure, and what effect that might have on nucleophilicity? Yes. (If you think you have to memorize something then chances are you've missed the point.)



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Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:47:53 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 8.6 BF, Nucleophiles) Dr Hardinger, I was wondering why sulfide is a good nucleophile in a polar aprotic solution. Is it something inherent in the sulfide ion or is it because the polar aprotic solution doesn't have H's to help solvate the ion? And if it is something inherent in the sulfide ion, then is it still a good nuc in protic solvents.


Answer:

HS- is a good nculeophile because it has no resonance to dilute the charge, and sulfur is soft and of low electronegativity. Because S is soft, it does not hydrogen bond well, so the protic or aprotic nature of the solvent doesn't matter much.


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Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:43:40 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 8.4C BF, Inversion of Configuration) Dr. Hardinger, on the bottom of page 285 it reads: "Substitution with inversion of configuration in one molecule cancels the rotation of one molecule that has not reacted, so that for each molecule undergoing inv ersion, one racemic pair is formed. Inversion of configuration in 50% of the molecules results in 100% racemization." Is this paragraph true for the same reasons that nucleophiles attack from the back (away from the associated leaving group) in SN1 (menti oned at the top of page 285)?


Answer:

Yes.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:38:26 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 8.5, Mustard Gasses) Dr. Hardinger, in the sulfur mustard reaction on page 295, I was wondering how sulfur bonds with the CH2 in the first place. Isn't the ring structure high in energy?


Answer:

This question has already been answered; please scroll down.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:35:16 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Ch 8 BF, Skeletal Rearrangement) Dr. Hardinger, I was just wondering if we have to know skeletal rearrangements in substitution reactions. If we do, could you briefly explain the its underlying purpose in SN2 and SN1 reactions?


Answer:

Yes you do. Rearrangement is a fundamental carbocation fate, which occurs to make the carbocation more stable. Rearrangement cannot occur in an SN2 reaction because there are no carbocations.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:34:40 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: siyuan
Student Email: sueliu@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts38-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu

On the "substitution and elmination reactions of alkyl halides" page, it says that ideal conditions for SN2 rxns involves a non-polar solvent. (2nd long paragraph). I thought polar solvents with high dielectric constants were favored?


Answer:

On what page of what text?



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:31:06 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Ch 8 BF, Solvents) Dr. Hardinger, how does polar protic solvents separate charge as opposed to polar aprotic?


Answer:

Protic has nothing to do with separating charges.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:29:15 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Ch. 8 BF, Stability) Dr. Hardinger, how is a tertiary carbocation more stable than a primary carbocation (i.e. CH3)? Does this only apply to carbocations?


Answer:

A carbocation is high in energy because it has an open octet and positive charge on carbon. Groups that can stabilize this situation by donating electrons will stabilize the cation. Alkyl groups such as methyl are weak electron donating groups. thu s, a primary carbocation with a single alkyl substituent is less stable than a tertiary carbocation with three alkyl substituents.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 2:25:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0016-max2.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Ch 8 BF, Stability) Dr. Hardinger, on page it says that iodide is less stable than fluoride. Why is that?


Answer:

What page number?



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Mar 7 0:24:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Phil
Student Email: paparker@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s67-129.resnet.ucla.edu

Prof, I am really confused as to the trends in basicity. It is my understanding that the best bases are those that do not participate in resonance, are soft, not significantly electronegative and have little inductive effect, all these factors allowing th e base to easily donate electrons. Why then is F- a better base than I-? Thanks a bunch, prof.


Answer:

A good base is hard not soft. The principle reason that fluoride is a better base than iodide is because fluoride is hard and iodide is soft.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 22:57:03 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Christopher Young
Student Email: cboggie44@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s68-191.resnet.ucla.edu

Do we need to know the pKa values from the sheet you gave us in lecture? Also, do we need to know the strong acids, strong bases, good nucleophiles and good leaving groups?


Answer:

Please do not memorize pKa values, although you might find it useful to have a good idea of the pKa values of common acids like H2SO4, hydronium acetic acid, etc. You should be able to look at a structure and figure out if it is a good acid or good b ase, or good leaving group or good nucleophile. We've done numerous examples of this exercise in lecture. There are many more examples in the textbook, concept focus questions, practice problems and old exam questions.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 22:42:46 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: jennifer
Student Email: jen15@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts11-13.wla.ts.ucla.edu

i have a specific questions: why is HS more nucleophilic than H20, H2S, and HO? why is HOCl more acidic than HOBr? and lastly, why is H20 more acidic than NH3 and CH4? thank you jennifer gardner


Answer:

HS: polarizability and charge. HOCl: inductive effect. H2O: electronegativity.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 22:31:43 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: jennifer gardner
Student Email: jen15@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts11-13.wla.ts.ucla.edu

professor, i am having a hard time following the trends of the periodic table for acidity and nucleophilicity. let me know if i understand them correctly: for electronegativity, the more electronegative, the less acidic, the more nucleophilic? for polarizability, for the rows- as you go from left to right you get more acidic? and for the columns as you go top to bottom, you get harder to softer which means less acidic to more acidic. but what does it do to nucleophilicty? and then, i thought a better base was also a better nucleophile. is my understanding of these trends correct? because i was doing some practice problems and i seemed to contradict myself. please clarify, thank you jennifer


Answer:

The role of a base or nculeophile is to share electrons with a proton or electrophile to make a new covalent bond. Any structural feature that decreases the ability or driving force for that species to donate electrons will decrease it's reactivity. If the atom that is sharing electrons is highly electronegative then it will have less propensity ot share electrons, and the species will be a poorer base or nucleophile. (Please don't just memorize trends, but instead understand the origin of these tr ends. Memorized trends are forgotten, but understood trends are remembered.) It appears that you might be confusing the effects of polarizability and electronegativity.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 21:46:35 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: siyuan
Student Email: sueliu@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts4-12.wla.ts.ucla.edu

For problem 5.16b in BF, isn't aconitic acid Z/trans? Trans indicating that the longest carbon chain is trans and not cis?


Answer:

You are correct.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 21:45:16 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wendewessen amde
Student Email: justcroozn@hotmail.com
Submitted from: 1Cust45.tnt3.lax3.da.uu.net

I found five mistakes on the study guide and problems book (Brown and Foote). 1. Ch.1 problem 32c, the answer should be C-H


Answer:

6.31c: An iodonium ion is a resonance form of the carbocation shown in the solutions manual. This is not an error. The other four answers you mention all do contain the errors you have noted. Four error bounty points have been recorded for you.



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Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 20:50:40 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Bernie
Student Email: bernard_m_kim@yahoo.com
Submitted from: ts2-14.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Hi Dr. Hardinger, Regarding Ch 8.5, internal nucleophiles, can you explain why the highly strained 3-membered ring structure at all? Since that structure is so high energy it seems like an unfavorable configuration, no matter how fleeting it is. Thanks.


Answer:

The ring exists due to a balance of thermodynamic factors. Ring strain is bad, but the new sigma bond that was formed by displacing a leaving group is stronger than the sigma bond that was lost when the leaving group departed.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Mar 6 16:04:41 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s70-134.resnet.ucla.edu

Hello Prof. Hardinger, I was wondering on the key for the Stereochemistry CFQ is the definition of a meso compound an achiral molecule with at least two stereocenters or at least one?


Answer:

Either definition works because they both say the same thing. A molecule cannot be achiral if it has a single stereocenter.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 5 21:03:03 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: host-a4432e24.library.ucla.edu

Hi Professor, i just want to clear this up: when considering acidity and nucleophility of a compound (or molecule), would it be correct to say that you would first consider polarizability before electronegativity? thank you.


Answer:

Yes you are correct.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 5 19:10:19 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: D
Student Email: playdo_ugh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s87-102.resnet.ucla.edu

dear prof H on page 134 of brown and foote it says that the tartaric acid (A) and (b)are enantiomers that are not superposable but on page 138 it claims that they are the same. It says "Enantiomers have identical physical and chemical properties in achira l environments". Am i just understanding it incorrectly or is the book wrong? thanx


Answer:

Enantiomers a & b are not superposable (verify this with models). Mirror images c & d ARE superposable, so they are identical. A molecule that is superposable on it's mirror image is achiral. If a molecule has at least one stereocenter but is achir al it is termed a meso compound.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Mar 5 17:49:37 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: D
Student Email: playdo_ugh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s87-102.resnet.ucla.edu

i was wonderin for chapter example 4.3 part c. (pg 127 in BF) how do you find the R or S configuration? im not getting it...


Answer:

Make a model exactly as shown, then assign priorities in the usual way. The priorities are OH (highest) > CHO > CH2OH > H (lowest). Now rotate the model so the lowest priority group is in back, and note the direction in which the priorities decrease .



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Date Submitted: Sun Mar 5 17:07:46 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: sf
Student Email: s_boberi@hotmail.com
Submitted from: pool0084.cvx17-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

dr. hardinger-- are fates and carbocations only for SN1 mechanisms?


Answer:

"Everytime you see a carbocation in a reaction mechanism, regardless of where it comes from, we think...." The three carbocation fates apply to any carbocation at anytime, regardless of the origin of that ccarbocation, be it SN1 or some other reactio n we have yet to discuss. There are a number of reactions involving carbocations that you will encounter in your study of organic chemistry.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Mar 4 21:56:28 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohymygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Professor, on page 283 of Brown and Foot table 8.5, could you explain why for polar aprotic solvents, F- would be more nucleophilic than I-? thank you


Answer:

This is not a simple explanation, and you are not expected to understand why this is. Here are the key facts to focus on concerning solvent effect and nucleophilicity. A solvent with high dielectric constant does not hiner nucleophilicity because it assists in separating the nucleophile from it's cation. Protic solvents decrease nucleophilicity of negatively charged nucleophiles due to hydrogen bonding, but have little effect on the nucleophilicity of neutral nucleophiles.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Mar 4 17:07:05 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Professor, concerning the previous quesion (as to which compound is more acidic, CF3CO2H (trifluoroacetic acid) or CCl3CO2H (trichloroacetic acid). you said that EN makes the compound with the F a more acidic compound than the one with Cl? I thought that acid streng th with a coloum of the periodic table increases from top to bottom due to decreasing bond strength. isn't this just the opposite of electronegativity? Thank you.


Answer:

Being more electronegative, fluorine reduces the negative charge on CF3CO2- to a greater extend than chlorine reduces the negative charge on Cl3CCO2-. Therefore CF3CO2- is a poorer bases than Cl3CO2-, which means CF3CO2H is a stronger acid than Cl3CO 2H.



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Date Submitted: Fri Mar 3 23:09:30 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Deborah
Student Email: deborah2@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0171.cvx27-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

Prof Hardinger, When I submitted a question on Sat Feb 26 I used HTML in my question and I used the

 tag with out including the 
tag. I think that might affect how people can read/print out VOH. Can you correct this by modifying the question (or by modifying your answer) to include a ? Sorry about this. [no need to submit an answer to this. feel free to delete]


Answer:

The simplest solution would be to avoid using HTML when writing your question. Just type into the VOH box like it was a normal word prcoessor.



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Date Submitted: Fri Mar 3 19:30:15 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: grace
Student Email: oohmygoosh@yahoo.com
Submitted from: s73-114.resnet.ucla.edu

Hi Professor Hardinger, I am not sure but did you cover Fischer Projections? also, on pg 115 of Brown and Foot, question 10d) why is CF3CO2H (trifluoroacetic acid)a more stronger acid than CCl3CO2H (trichloroacetic acid)? Thank you


Answer:

You are not responsible for Fsicher projections. Trifluoroacetic acid is a stronger acid than trichloracetic acid because fluorine is more electronegative and exerts a stronger inductive effect than chlorine.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Mar 1 19:14:45 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s95-120.resnet.ucla.edu

Hello Prof. Hardinger, I had a question about a CFQ for Organic Acids And Bases. It states in number 2 for the solutions that "The chloride ion in this case is a Lewis base that is not functioning as a Bronsted base. It is not possible to have a Lewis base that is never a Brons ted base, as any Lewis base can donate electrons to a proton." Is this a contradiction? Thanks


Answer:

This is not a contradiction. A Lewis base can donate electrons to anything, whereas a Bronsted base can only donate electrons to a proton. Thus a Bronsted base is always a Lewis base, but a Lewis base is not always a Bronsted base.



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Date Submitted: Tue Feb 29 12:16:32 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: jennY
Student Email: ciroezi@ucla.edu
Submitted from: 128.97.53.63

I would like to know if it's ok when determining the stability of leaving groups after they've left, to use just the resonance stabilizing factor and polarizability only. I know leaving grps are not as important as the nucleophile that's attacking in an Sn2 mech, but will it be ok to just use those two factors in determining the best leaving grps?


Answer:

Yes, use those two factors and some chemical common sense. :)



Question:

Date Submitted: Sat Feb 26 18:37:50 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Deborah
Student Email: deborah2@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0212.cvx29-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

This is taken from your Midterm I Solutions Key. 6. (3 points) Write the balanced cathode half-reaction for the CO/PbO2 battery. Answer: Pb4+ =====> Pb2+ + 2e- Since Pb4+ is reduced to Pb2+, shouldn't the half-reaction be: Pb4+ + 2e- =====> Pb2+ Thank you.


Answer:

The correction has been made. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.



Question:

Date Submitted: Fri Feb 25 12:24:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: sue
Student Email: slang@ucla.edu
Submitted from: SLC-PC-53.nslc.ucla.edu

Why is a soft LG good? If it is soft, wouldn't it want to interact with the carbon and therefore be less inclined to leave? Maybe it's because it makes for a more stable transition state?? thanks


Answer:

The leaving group is accepting the pair of electrons that used to be the carbon-leaving group bond. This requires a change in orbitals on the atom that is accepting these electrons. This change in orbitals is partly what we mean when we refer to pol arizability. Thus higher polarizability (i..e, softness) makes for a better leaving group because it assists electron and orbital change.



Question:

Date Submitted: Fri Feb 25 12:21:12 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: sue
Student Email: slang@ucla.edu
Submitted from: SLC-PC-53.nslc.ucla.edu

Is resonance good for the LG b/c it's more stable after it leaves or b/c it has a weaker partial bond to C and therefore is more inclined to leave?


Answer:

There is no direct connection between resonance and bond strength, so resonance makes a leaving group better by improving it's stability after it leaves.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 23 17:42:31 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Michelle Blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr. Hardinger,on the electrophiles and nucleophiles tutorial example #2c, i think the solution should read "Each hydrogen atom bears a partial positive charge,so the molecule can behave as an electophile as well"


Answer:

This error has been fixed, and your one point "bounty" recorded. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 23 15:58:05 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

Dear Mr. Hardinger, in the mechanism fundamentals practice problems, practice problem #5b,I don't understand where one of the methyl groups went in the first drawing (the one with the double bond to oxygen)Could you explain to me where it went and why it isn't shown? Was this just an error?


Answer:

The problem asks you to write a version of the equation that is correct. Removing this erroneous methyl group is one such solution.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 23 16:13:49 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Lilia Blanco
Student Email: sglb33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

Mr. Hardinger,could you explain an electron donating induction effect with an example? in CF3CH2OH, the fluorines have a withdrawing induction effect, so does the carbon have an electron donating effect because of its lower electronegativity?


Answer:

Fluorines are highly electronegative and thus electron withdrawing. Atoms that are of low electronegativity can be electron donating.



Question:

Date Submitted: Fri Feb 18 15:11:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s97-141.resnet.ucla.edu

I had a quick question about one of the midterm solutions. Should the numerator and denominator be switched in number 10 for Q?


Answer:

The answer key appears to be accurate. Q is a quotient of the product of all the product concentrations (stuff on the right side of the equilibrium) over the product of all the reactant concentrations (stuff on the left of the equilibrium).



Question:

Date Submitted: Fri Feb 18 12:16:38 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Michelle
Student Email: Mishie27@aol.com
Submitted from: spider-th071.proxy.aol.com

Hello, I am having a hard time finding the link to the Winter Midterm I key. Could you please e-mail it to me? Thanks, Michelle


Answer:

The link is on my Chem 30 page, near the top. http://web.chem.ucla.edu/~harding/30_w00_e1.html



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 17 21:22:09 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Michelle
Student Email: mblove33
Submitted from: spider-tk053.proxy.aol.com

In the specific rotation tutorial, part c, why is the concentration of 1.24 g/mL used instead of the diluted concentration of 1.00g/mL?


Answer:

Thank you for pointing out this error. It has been fixed.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 17 14:09:38 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Phil
Student Email: paparker@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s67-78.resnet.ucla.edu

prof, in working through stereochemistry, I have found that the book has discrepencies with the way you teach rotation. Using the book's way (using atomic numbers) I get opposite rotations than when I use your way, atomic weights. Is this my problem, or s hould I just ignore the book's answers and do it your way? Thanks


Answer:

The only time that amotic weight vs atomic number can lead to discrepencies is in the cases of certain isotopes. If you are getting wrong configurations, then there is some more serious error. Please come and visit me and we'll work it out.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 16 17:00:50 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wisam
Student Email: wbarkho@ucla.edu
Submitted from: 149.142.104.60

are the solutions for the midterm going to be posted on the web? if it already is, where is it? thanks


Answer:

They are posted. Look for the midterm link near the top of my Chem 30 web page. --Dr H



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Feb 14 19:28:25 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Michelle
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

Mr. Hardinger on the specific rotation tutorial, could you please explain part c; Focusing on the concentration portion of it? Thank you


Answer:

Could you make this question more specific? I don't know what you need for me to explain.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 10 23:47:23 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Salewa
Student Email: oakande@ucla.edu
Submitted from: spider-wl051.proxy.aol.com

HI Dr Hardinger, Something is kind of confusing. When choosing cathode and anode to calculate standard cell potential we are supposed to choose the algebraicall bigger E0 as cathode right? If we have 2 -ve E0 say: -1.2 and -0.5/0.7, -0.5/0.7 is a larger # than -1.2 and according to OGN should be chosen as cathode and -1.2 as anode, but in your examples, you choose -1.2 as cathode, as if you are taking the absolute value that is bigger. This is contrary to OGN's method, please tell me which is the right way? Thanks


Answer:

The half reaction with the largest absolute value gets to do what it wants,.i.e., proceeds in a direction that gives that half-cell a positive voltage. Postive voltage corresposnds to negative deltaG (thermodynamically spontaneous).



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 10 14:39:16 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Sheri
Student Email: sfarasat@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts34-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Do we name compounds? For anode/cathode problems, which one is written first in the parentheses, (Cl l Cl) ll (Ag2+ l Ag+)? Which comes 1st in each parentheses? What goes through salt bridge? What is it's purpose?


Answer:

Naming: You are responsible for basic nomenclature of common molecules, but will not be asked to name complex things. About anode/cathode: i cannot tell what your cell is, so I cannot answer your question directly. We always put the anode on the lef t and write it as an oxidation. The cathode always goes on the right and it is always written as a reduction. About salt bridge: Ions migrate throuhg the salt bridge to balance the charge that builds up in each half-cell during an electrochemical proces s.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 10 14:35:07 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Yoram
Student Email: yoramk@ucla.edu
Submitted from: host-a443ea42.library.ucla.edu

Prof. Hardinger, Do we need to know the short hand for Benzene (ie Ph)? Also which causes more Van Der Walls Repulsion (due to electron repulsion) a benzene ring or a -CH3, and also benzene vs -CH2CH3.


Answer:

About Ph: No, but feel free to use it. About van der Waals repulsion: Generally speaking, larger groups have greater repulsion. Since methyl is smaller than ethyl and both are smaller than phenyl, methyl would have the least steric demands (repulsio n), and phenyl would have the greatest steric demands.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 10 3:26:25 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Peter
Student Email: pcostell@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts54-47.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Dr. H, For two molecules to react they must collide with the proper orbital orientation and with sufficient kinetic energy to overcome...? Is it electorn density repulsion or does it have something to do with bond energy changes? I'm confused. Peter


Answer:

To overcome the energy barrier in the transition state. We will address this issue when we talk about the SN2 reaction in perhaps a week.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 9 22:38:41 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: dave herman
Student Email: loco@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s74-126.resnet.ucla.edu

professor, I was wondering, did you want us to memorize all the functional groups, or just specfic ones. Thanks for your time, dave


Answer:

You are responsible for all the functional groups on the handout I gave in class. You should be able to draw them, pick them out of a structure, and understand why we study functional groups. Please do not waste your time by attempting to memorize s pecific examples.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Feb 7 23:57:18 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: dave herman
Student Email: loc0@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-58.resnet.ucla.edu

professor, just to make sure I'm not missing anything. the miterm will cover redox, electrochemistry, molecular dynamics, and ??acid base stuff?? thanks for your time, dave


Answer:

The midterm covers everything up to and including molecular dynamics but not stereochemistry.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Feb 7 1:12:30 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wisam
Student Email: wbarkho@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts42-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu

when counting valence electrons for lewis structures, we use a periodic table. should we bring one to the midterm? also, will we be able to have a cheat sheet?


Answer:

You will be supplied with a periodic table. You MAY NOT have a cheat sheet. (You don't want to see a Hardinger exam that lets you use one!)



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Feb 6 16:29:05 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: katie schon
Student Email: kschon@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s83-110.resnet.ucla.edu

Professor Hardinger, I was curious as to whether or not we would be able to bring our model kits into the midterm exam and if so, how necessary they would be to carry out the exam. Thank you for your time.


Answer:

You may bring any or all of the following to the exam: pencil, pen, eraser, model kit. A model kit might be useful for this exam. Stereochemistry has been moved to midterm II, so your model kit will definately be useful there.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Feb 6 1:44:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: john
Student Email: yapi@aol.com
Submitted from: spider-wg043.proxy.aol.com

professor, i understood S = counterclockwise and R = clockwise, but i'm having trouble to figure them out in exercises. could you explain easier way to define S&R configuration? thank you.


Answer:

My experience with this kind of question suggests that the problem is one of visualization of the three-dimensional molecular structure. Are you using models? If not, try using them. If you are, then bring this question to my office so we can figur e out the exact problem.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 3 14:49:09 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Peter
Student Email: pcostell@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts52-34.wla.ts.ucla.edu

Will electrons of highest energy always occupy the valence shell of a particular atom? Is it correct to define valence shell as the space that contains electrons of highest energy for a particular atom instead of saying the "outtermost" electron shell?


Answer:

The valence shell is DEFINED as the highest energy shell, so the answer to your question is yes.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Feb 3 10:53:17 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Dave Herman
Student Email: loc018@aol.com
Submitted from: spider-tk012.proxy.aol.com

Professor, I'm still a little confused about the redox fom the beginning of the course. Like in the example given on the first redox handout, how can you tell what is and isn't a spectator ion? thanks for your time. Dave


Answer:

Spectator ions are ions in which there are no oxidation state changes.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Feb 2 2:04:42 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Bernard Kim
Student Email: bernard_m_kim@yahoo.com
Submitted from: spider-tf062.proxy.aol.com

Hi Prof. Hardinger, I have a question regarding resonance and molecular orbitals. Taking the example of the CO3 carbonate ion from the 1/24 lecture, I understand that the contributing structures don't really exist but that in reality all three C-O bonds are equivalent. If th is is the case then what do the hybridized molecular orbitals look like? Is it just that the overlap of the pi-bonding orbitals is not as great as it would be in a "true" pi-bond? Or would it be better to think in terms of probability densities? Thanks, Bernie.


Answer:

Carbon of carbonate has three attachments and is therefore sp2 hybridized. The C=O pi bonds in carbonate are weaker than normal C=O bonds because they don't have a full compliment of two pi electrons.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Feb 1 19:49:57 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Marika Dubin
Student Email: mrdubin@earthlink.net
Submitted from: pool0562.cvx29-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

Dear Professor Hardinger: When drawing resonance structures, should we consider structures which have higher formal charges on some atoms(ie -2 as opposed to -1) as viable contributing structures? Thanks.


Answer:

Any resonance contributor is possible as long as it does not violate the normal rules from drawing Lewis structures. If everything else is equal, then the resonance contributor that has the least number and/or smallest formal charges is more importan t. For more details on resonance structure, work through Chapter 3 of the Weeks paperback, and explore the resonance tutorial on my home page.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Feb 1 19:46:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Marika Dubin
Student Email: mrdubin@earthlink.net
Submitted from: pool0562.cvx29-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

Dear Professor Hardinger: How familiar should we be with the topic of molecular orbitals (bonding and anti-bonding orbitals,etc.) discussed in Chapter 16? Thanks.


Answer:

I assigned Chapter 16 mostly as review. This is material that you should have had in Chme 20A. For an exam, you'll be expected to know and fully understand the level of detail discussed in lecture.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Jan 27 22:04:08 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: pearl kim
Student Email: pearlkim@ucla.edu
Submitted from: lab-021.clicc.ucla.edu

Professor, is it ok to say that resonance is to maximize amount of bonding between atoms, or would i have to say that resonance is one or more lewis structures?


Answer:

A molecule is DEFINED to have resonance if it can have more than one acceptable Lewis structure. Resonance doesn't really "occur" because individual resonance contributors do not exist. Neighboring atoms will share electrons if possible to increase bonding, and this is consist with the resonance model.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Jan 27 22:02:03 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: pearl kim
Student Email: pearlkim@ucla.edu
Submitted from: lab-021.clicc.ucla.edu

Professor: regarding the electrochemistry practice problems, is question 2C a -3 charge ion as is on the question, or O3 subscript as in the answer key? also on question 5 of the same electrochemistry problems, on the question it was written as Ce as th e anode and aluminum as the cathode, but on the answer key it was written the other way around which is correct? because I got the answer of -3.316V as the standard potential but the answer key read +3.316V which would change everything....


Answer:

The errors in the electrochemistry practice problems have been fixed. Visit the page again, and use your "refresh" or "reload" button to see the newest version of the page.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Jan 26 11:31:28 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Bernard Kim
Student Email: bernard_m_kim@yahoo.com
Submitted from: 149.142.170.245

I have a few questions that are loosely related with VSEPR which states that electrons within a shell will arrange in the least energetic arrangeent, i.e. far away from each other as possible. My question is this: why do atoms bond at all? I mean, it seems that if 2 atoms present their negatively charged electrons to one another then as they approach one another they should be repelled. My guess is that the desire for electrons and the desire t o fulfill the octet (electronegativity) overcomes this repulsion? A related question is how come there are electron orbitals at all? Why don't the electrons collapse inwards towards the positively charged nucleus? Finally, why is there a nucleus at all? Shouldn't the positively charge protons separate violently? I have heard of the strong and weak nuclear forces but still haven't been able to reconcile this yet in my mind. Thanks. Bernie.


Answer:

Atoms bonds because the resulting electronic and orbital arrangement has lower energy than if the atoms did not bond. The remainder of your questions are best answered by someone who knows more quantum physics that I do!



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Jan 24 22:25:43 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: wisam
Student Email: wbarkho@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts5-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu

hi, i'm just wondering how much of ch.12 in oxtoby we should read?


Answer:

According to the reading schedule on the web page, all of Chapter 12 was assigned, so I expect you to read all of it. However, you should focus on the material covered in lecture.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Jan 24 17:52:53 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: sue
Student Email: sueliu@ucla.edu
Submitted from: ts4-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu

For practice problem 1a on the oxidation/reduction set, how do you know it's a basic solution (using step 5--to add OHH and H20 instead of H30 and H20)? Also for 2C on the same set--I got the half reaction of Cr6+ --> Cr3+, but I don't know how to get the other half reaction of CH3CHO--> CH3CO2H? Does the CH3CO2H have a negative charge? What is being oxidized?? And--is the Faraday's Laws handout going to be posted on the web? Thanks


Answer:

About 1a: Because the problem says it's in basic solution. About 2c: The oxidation states for carbon were discussed in the first day of lecture. You can use the rules in Oxtoby to figure it out. Alternately, start by noting that all atoms in their elemental state (C for carbon) have an oxidation state of zero. Then adjust the oxidation state depending upon the bonds. Each bond between carbon and an element more electronegative than carbon counts as an oxidation, so the oxidation state is made one unit more positive. Each bond between the carbon and another carbon or any atom less electronegative than carbon counts as a reduction, and so we make the oxidation state one unit more negative. Thus for the carbonyl carbon of acetic acid (CH3CO2H), th e oxidation state is +2. About the Faraday's Laws handout: I have no plans to post this on the web. I do this to encourage students to attend lecture. A copy of the handout can be obtained from me in my office. PS: In the future, please only ask one question per submission. It makes it easier to see the answers. Thanks!



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Jan 24 1:47:06 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Phil
Student Email: paparker@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s67-94.resnet.ucla.edu

professor, I was wondering about the nerst equation. Where does the n come from? Thanks.


Answer:

In the Nerts equation, n is the number of moles of electrons passed between the two half-cells in the balanced redox equation. Example: Cu + 2Ag+ ---> Cu2+ + 2Ag The Cu ---> Cu2+ is a two electron process. Ag+ ---> Ag is a one electron process, but the Ag bears a coefficient of 2 in the balanced equation. Thus, the silver transfers two moles of electrons in the balanced equation. For this reaction, n = 2.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 23 22:17:58 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ben Plotkin
Student Email: erebus3@hotmail.com
Submitted from: 209.204.29.34

Why do some rechargeable batteries have memory problems and others do not?


Answer:

Batteries have different designs, and that can lead to differces in the details of how they work. Other than that, I do not know. I would suggest a web search. If you find anything, please let me know!



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 23 20:25:51 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Ankur Bhatt
Student Email: ankurb@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s97-110.resnet.ucla.edu

Hello Prof. Hardinger. I have a quick question about one of the practice problems for the Electrochemistry section. For number 4 part a I was wondering when you solve for n the number of moles, why is the answer 8 moles of electrons and not 16 moles? Thanks.


Answer:

Ooops! That typo has been fixed. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 23 15:10:08 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: hoon
Student Email: uno.ucla.edu
Submitted from: spider-wg051.proxy.aol.com

for the midterms and final are we allowed to have a 3x5 index card for a cheat sheet?


Answer:

At this time you may not have a "cheat sheet" for exams.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Jan 20 20:04:04 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: lilia blanco
Student Email: sglb33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

mr hardinger,in #4 of the electrochem web practice problems, the work you have in the key would give the answer of 16.0 moles of e-, and not 8.00 moles of e- (as you have written). Could you please tell me why it is 8.00 and not 16.0?


Answer:

I do not understand what you are asking here. Could you clarify the question, or come to my office and ask it again? Thanks.



Question:

Date Submitted: Thu Jan 20 19:43:11 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: michelle blanco
Student Email: mblove33@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s71-237.resnet.ucla.edu

mr hardinger, in the electrochemistry web practice problems, problem #2b is written with Pb2+ then Pb as the anode. if this is being oxidized, then shouldn't it be written as Pb then Pb2+?


Answer:

You are correct. Thanks for pointing out this typo, which has been fixed.



Question:

Date Submitted: Wed Jan 19 16:27:39 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Phil Parker
Student Email: paparker@ucla.edu
Submitted from: s67-129.resnet.ucla.edu

Professor, in an abbreviated battery, anode goes on the left, and cathode on the right, correct? In #2 of the electrochemistry practice problems on the web, you have in the answer the Fe3+ and Fe2+, which were on the left in the abreviation, taking the ca thode spot in the equation to find the reaction potential. Is this correct or a mistake?


Answer:

By convention, the anode is written on the left and the cathode on the right (Oxtoby page 407). The problem contains an error which has been fixed. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.



Question:

Date Submitted: Tue Jan 18 9:40:27 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Lisa Ko
Student Email: wenko@ucla.edu
Submitted from: msa-4328-20.oac-commons.ucla.edu

Dr. Hardinger, Can you please show me an example how to balance a reduction or oxidation reaction in an "organic" system? Do we balance the electron base on the difference between the oxidation states of carbon? How do we put the H20/H30+ or 0H-/H20 pairs into the half- reaction? Thank you.


Answer:

The procedure for balancing redox reactions is the same in inorganic as well as organic systems. Use the oxidation states on carbon to figure out the electron change. Use H3O+ or HO- in the usual way.



Question:

Date Submitted: Mon Jan 17 15:49:03 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0018-max6.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Example 12.6, Electrical Work) Dr Hardinger: I'm familiar with the concept of work, so I'm assuming that I'm just not reading the question correctly. Anyway, in this example, the question states that the battery is delivering the steady current, so I ass ume that the battery is performing the electrical work; the work should then be negative. But the last sentence of the example states, "This [-40.5 kJ] is the work done on the battery, and so the work done by the battery is the negative of this, or +40.5k J." Can you please clarify this for me? Thanks.


Answer:

You are correct. The battery is doing the work on the external circuit. Sometimes another current source is doing work on the battery, for example, when a battery is being charged.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 16 22:16:25 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0030-max9.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 12.2, Galvanic Cell) Dr Hardinger, looking at the set up of the galvanic cell, I was wondering if we didn't need silver nitrate to form copper(II) ions because I don't see how the silver nitrate in one beaker can interact with the copper in the othe r beaker. Thanks again.


Answer:

The silver and copper solutions do not interact directly. The electrons produced or consumed flow through the external circuit (or are carried by ions through the salt bridge).



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 16 22:11:40 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0030-max9.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

(Sec. 12.2, Salt Bridge) Dr. Hardinger, I was curious as to the purpose of preserving charge neutrality within each beaker. Wouldn't the electrons be more likely to travel from the positively charged solution to the the external circuit? Thanks for your t ime.


Answer:

A system is most stable when it has the least amount of charge. If charge neutrality was not maintained, the energy of the system would rise. It would quickly rise so high that charge production would cease, and the current flow would stop.



Question:

Date Submitted: Sun Jan 16 22:07:00 US/Pacific 2000
Student Name: Roderick C. Roxas
Student Email: rroxas@ucla.edu
Submitted from: pool0030-max9.ucla-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net

Dr. Hardinger: Sec. 12.2: Galvanic Cell I'm a little unclear on exactly what happens at the metal-solution interface when electrons reach the silver cathode. Can you help me, please?


Answer:

When electrons leave Ag to form Ag+ and an electrons, the Ag+ ion goes into solution as Ag+(aq), and the electron travels through the silver electrode and from there through the rest of the circuit, and eventually over to the other half cell.




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